Almost four years ago Jon Burgerman packed up his pens and swapped his native Nottingham for the bustling streets of New York, in search of new creative challenges.
In that time, the award-winning artist and character design ninja has joined a band, eaten a lot of pizza and increasingly placed his charismatic, chaotic characters into the public sphere, inviting audiences to engage with his work and take it in new, unexpected directions.
Armed with a film crew, the Computer Arts team found a quiet corner inside Dublin's buzzing Bord Gáis Energy Theatre during March's Offset conference and took five with the man who made doodling famous.
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Why is it so important to take yourself out of your comfort zone?
If you're a creative person, comfort is a killer. If you pre-empt exactly what you're going to make every time then where's the excitement? Where's the danger?
We don't want to fail, but the fact that there's a very real chance that you might keeps you on your toes. But if it's super easy every time you just get lazy and your work won't grow or develop. It's important to keep moving.
There's an analogy I read about a rock climber: when you slip, you refocus 100 per cent more because you know you might fall down. It's like that. It's good to have those little slips and bumps, and refocus our attention.
Can you tell us about a recent creative project that involved taking a risk?
I was invited to be in a group show in Cincinnati and I decided that I wouldn't make any work for it - I would make props that the audience could play around with, and then what they make is the artwork.
I was trying to encourage people to become creative. It's not just a passive experience in viewing art or design or anything: the missing piece of the puzzle is the audience - they have to bring something to it to complete the circuit.
This is what I mean about being comfortable. It's about involving others, sharing the work, allowing other people to creatively engage with it and to see it in a whole new way. That's amazing.
You've said that creating art can be like a performance. Can you elaborate on this?
The act of making, for me, in my head - which is how I describe it to myself while making it, probably as a means of distracting myself from the task at hand so as not to be overwhelmed and screw it up - is that it's like a dance or something.
You're making these marks and making a sound, and when you get to that flow stage you forget what you're doing. You're making, thinking and anticipating what you're going to do next - and reviewing what you've just done in the same instance - and you go into this weird little trance.
I don't know much about dance, but I've seen a few things and I feel there are some similarities with that - making, display, creating, analysing - and what must be going through their heads in the ballet.
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